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Thoughts on racism
I'm happy to say that i never seen any racism or bullying on toirbash forums or in-game but outside of toribash, i see it all the time.

I think it is wrong especially since im Asian and there are a lot of stereotypical stuff said about us which i'm not going into detail but luckily for me, I got lts of friends who will stick up for me but some people aren't that lucky.

What do you guys feel about racism and about bullying in general? People say bullys are the worst but i think the bystander is just as bad. Standing there but not doing anything to help, that is just sick.
Last edited by Eddylee; Apr 14, 2014 at 02:50 AM.
Don't Be Racist
Originally Posted by eddylee
bullying in general?

Bullying awful and horrible. It's really hard to get over the bullying and try to move on. Bullying causes so many problems and a lot of people develop mental health problems like depression, stress, anxiety and they lead to self harm, have suicidal thoughts and even take their own lives. Bullying is horrible and nobody deserves to be bullied.

Originally Posted by eddylee
What do you guys feel about racism

I hate racism, and that needs no explanation.
Last edited by Chilledon; Apr 14, 2014 at 03:02 AM.
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I think it a bystander's ultimate responsible to help whether they do it or not because who else is going to help, not a teacher, not an adult, it should be whoever the bystander is. Almost 100% of the time the person being bullied wont go ask for help so it is the bystanders job to help them
Don't Be Racist
Originally Posted by Sean View Post
I've seen tons of racism in game. Public wushu....

But anyways, racist people tend to be less intelligent and have a lower IQ according to a study by The Huffington Post and many others. Google it



Proof
Proof

What you might have interpreted as racism on public wushu, might have been nasty trolling. We all know wushuers are a superior breed with high IQ, we can't be racist.


The part about fearing and hating different people being the result from low cognitive capabilities makes sense, but that's not the only reason. I've seen many stupid people who weren't racist or homophobic, education and social environment matters a lot.
As much as I hate bullying, I gotta say that there is actually a bright side to it.
It builds who you are in the future and everytime you get bullied you learn what and what not to do and how to avoid them bullies. It might even be a motivation to hit the gym more and to be more stronger so the next time no one will dare to bully you. (I'm not saying I support bullying though)
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Originally Posted by deprav View Post
What you might have interpreted as racism on public wushu, might have been nasty trolling. We all know wushuers are a superior breed with high IQ, we can't be racist.


The part about fearing and hating different people being the result from low cognitive capabilities makes sense, but that's not the only reason. I've seen many stupid people who weren't racist or homophobic, education and social environment matters a lot.

^ This

If being bullied, tell someone and the cops may get involved. They can get charged for that shit. Cyberbullied is as easy as blocking someone.

Racism isn't going to be abolished anytime soon, xenophobia, and ignorance
Runs to deep within our nations.
I would just say ignore race all together, but some people say that is also racist. So the idea of racism is kind of a double edged sword. Everyone is *racist* wether it just be ignorance, it's just how it is, some races may be
More superior in some areas whereas others will be superior in others, to say we are all the same is also a bit racist and in a sense wrong. Each race has it's
strengths and weaknesses, throw some white folk in the sun for 8 hours then throw some darker folk and see who can stand the sun for that long.
Originally Posted by xlr84life View Post
As much as I hate bullying, I gotta say that there is actually a bright side to it.
It builds who you are in the future and everytime you get bullied you learn what and what not to do and how to avoid them bullies. It might even be a motivation to hit the gym more and to be more stronger so the next time no one will dare to bully you. (I'm not saying I support bullying though)

I get what you mean (disclaimer: i ain't even mad), but having been bullied fairly extensively myself, i can safely say that that is character development i could easily have lived without. As a result of it, my self-esteem is abysmal, my social skills are stunted, i'm very slow to actually let people get close to me (despite them being great friends), and in general i have a hard time taking initiative and doing something out of the ordinary out of fear of ridicule.

Possibly the only good things that has come out of it is that i would go to great lengths to prevent someone else from being subjected to the same, and that i have learned to really appreciate friends. While i obviously can't say if i'd be the same person today if i hadn't been bullied, i'm almost entirely certain that i wouldn't be any less happy.

So yeah, my stance on bullying is that of almost pathological hatred, as one of the very few things on this planet that i legitimately HATE. In my eyes, there is NO justification to make others feel miserable for the giggles. I don't care if the bully is feeling miserable himself, or if it's just some sod who jumps on the bandwagon because the sod doesn't want to be bullied, or if it's someone with aspergers who doesn't know better (they should be taught that such things just aren't okay from an early age), just don't do it. It helps nothing, you'll hate yourself in the future for it, and i will probably kick you in the knee with my steel-toed shoes if i see you doing it.

As for racism, i'm ashamed to admit that i have a bit of involuntary and latent racism going on in the back of my head. I know it's wrong, so i do my best to not let it get to me, but for some reason i just can't look away from the visual differences. Now please, don't get all up in my face for saying that, because i don't want to think like that, it's subconscious and involuntary. I'm reasonably sure it stems primarily from the bullying, since a striking number of my antagonists back then were of different ethnicity, and well... They didn't exactly try to rectify my stereotypes. I've also formed similar views of danish people with certain "thuggish" facial features, which one might argue is just as bad. My biggest woe is that the stereotypes i've formed are in tune with reality annoyingly often.

But, hear me out: Stereotyping is bad, but the human mind loves to do it. I think most people do it, actually. The key is to not act on these impulses, to accept differences. Racists don't do that. They may have had unfortunate experiences in their past like myself, but that's not really an excuse to judge completely unrelated people. So, despite my subconscious being silly, my belief is that racism is wrong in the extreme.
Last edited by Shook; Apr 15, 2014 at 12:29 AM.
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I totally agree with what Shook said or at least i think i do. We all have impulses that tell us to bully or say a racial slur or something which is fine because we are all human, but we should be able to control these impulses instead of saying them out loud.

They have a bunch of programs to help people being bullied but not a program for the bully. Sometimes it is something wrong with your brain or sometimes it is something in your family. This is why people should start programs for both the bully and the person being bullied.

A quote i heard when i was little
Hurting people hurt people.
The more you think, the deeper it gets
Don't Be Racist
Shook: its not about controlling less orthodox thoughts, its about controlling your ability to filter them from the outside. there is nothing kinder than contesting your own natural reactions for someone elses well being and respect

for that reason i dont consider someone racist unless those thoughts are turned into actions. i too look at people with different appearence in a different way but its just my reaction to their appearence being different and i dont consider myself racist. reactions are animal instinct, actions are exclusively human (and characterize us as such). while giving a different race person an odd look is a reaction, a human would be able to make the decision of not judging based on that. if you cant do that, you probably are only a man, not a human
oh yeah
Racism is deeply frowned upon the tori-community ._.

There would be no respect at all...

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