Originally Posted by Ragdollmaster

This is just corporate greed. The companies are suing because they want more money to give million dollar bonuses to their employs who do nothing- sure, what's it matter if a few people who run a website go to jail and have to pay? I love how they're not suing the people who posted up the actual torrents which broke copyright laws, but instead the guys who just set up the biggest file sharing and hosting site in the world. This is like suing e-Bay because someone on there tries to sell child porn. Well, not exactly, but you get the point.

It would cause public outrage, maybe to the point of major scale riots, or at least a lot of angry letters to the government, if the verdict stuck. Chances are it won't due to the whole immunity thing, but governments have done stupider things before.

Originally Posted by Dalir

They're not interested in stopping piracy, they're interested in punishing people for it, and now, they're trying to scare us by jailing someone because of bullshitting lawyers and a faulty court-system.

Originally Posted by Inzal

deady you gotta remember, thats just 12 billion that they COULD make if piracy wasn't existent, and if everyone actually bought the product

its not like taking 12 billion dollars that they already have away from them... I dunno there's alot you could debate for and against piracy i suppose

Originally Posted by Inzal

Tapion you could include it as a social issue
if you explain how a large number of people in society that use computers do piracy etc, and stuff along the lines of how it affects society and the individuals within it?

its what i would do

Originally Posted by Tapion

They are appealing it.....
No need to worry if they are. They appealed it at the spot.

Originally Posted by War_Hero

Adobe makes a shit tonne of money because of piracy. With the high price comes the belief that Photoshop is miles and miles ahead of GIMP. Because people think it is way better, they all pirate and use it, thus establishing it as the industry standard. Because it is the industry standard, schools, universities, businesses, and normal people all buy copies of it. Same foes for musicians. Many bands actually lose money on selling albums. They make their money off of concerts and other live venues where the record company(satan) is not controlling them. MIA knew that record companies screw you over, so she gave out her songs for free on napster and limewire, and now she is super popular because of it. If she had sold those same songs through a record company, they would take 90% of the profits, charge for for outlandish shit and it wouldn't even reach a wide audience.

The smart succeed in the internet age. Piracy has helped adobe and MIA and countless other achieve a wider audience for which to sell their stuff too eventually. Doom I was super easy to get for free, but ID games still made millions of dollars per person. You are not very educated in marketing or observation, Synthetic_Soul, piracy has made it very obvious that people are more willing to eventually spend more money on something they can get for free.