Originally Posted by dauzhboost

now I will explain why I did it:skizz is a person who scammed me for 100 dollars in the past, skizz is one of the most famous trolls of toribash and he just provoked me once again. I do not harbor any hatred towards black people, this was said emotionally and outside the game, so I do not understand at all why I got a ban for this.

Originally Posted by dauzhboost

at about 16 years old

Originally Posted by dauzhboost

1)absurd logic. that is, if someone from toribash gets caught with you, say, in dota and you call him bad words there, you will also be banned from toribash?

Originally Posted by Posiden

Being racist and calling someone a slur are not the same.

Originally Posted by Posiden

But again there is a huge distinction between using a racial slur vs being a racist.

Originally Posted by Posiden

With gaining op changing the server settings and then banning him from the server. Littlerally instigated it.

Originally Posted by Posiden

A grip? Lol dude you can't even read between the lines. Your actions caused his responce. And the favoritism is showing now that you got him banned when tb jurisdiction doesn't even stretch to personal dms on discord. Your accusation whether you had proof of it or not is overstepping the fundamental guidelines that the tb rules address. Talk about being a moron. His ban isn't justified by tb rules. Your personal vendetta you have on him is quite ignorant. Yall have a past which wasn't all that great. So your gonna intentionally start something to get a reaction out of them. You are just as much at fault for this situation then he is. Or is that to hard for you to understand.

Originally Posted by Cicada3301

This isn't moderation, it's a power trip.
Toribash isn't dying because of a lack of players; it's dying because the staff would rather ban people than use common sense. My friend got nuked - not for cheating, not for breaking in-game rules, but for a word in a private discord chat that had zero connection to Toribash. Since when do admins police conversations outside their game?

Now, credit where it's due - some mods genuinely care, and they're the only reason this game still has a pulse. But their efforts are being sabotaged by power-hungry clowns who throw around GUID bans like it's a personal vendetta simulator. No warnings. No appeals. Just instant permabans + IP blocks to make sure you never come back.
This isn't one mistake - it's a pattern. Diamond, TIcux, and countless others others left because the so-called 'moderation' here is a joke where personal grudges override basic fairness.
If this is how Toribash treats its players, then the game doesn't deserve a community. Fix your staff before there's nobody left to ban.

Originally Posted by Gabe

Man u banned him on purpose cuz u knew he would react like that, that’s instigation.

Originally Posted by Cicada3301

You just throw around bans for no reason, and now you're acting like you're completely blameless? You did provoke him. You had OP, and you used it to ban him for something trivial, then you’re surprised that he responded harshly?

Originally Posted by Cicada3301

You can say it had "no grand purpose," but actions like that always have consequences, even if you don’t think there’s any deeper meaning.

Originally Posted by Cicada3301

Also, while, we're at it, you've thrown around enough garbage here yourself to offend any sane person reading. Maybe it's time we start reporting you for that?

Originally Posted by Cicada3301

No one’s justifying slurs here - the point was about how absurd it is to weaponize moderation over a private Discord message that had nothing to do with the game. But of course, you’d twist it into the most cartoonishly bad-faith interpretation possible. Classic

Originally Posted by sunflower

The only bending I’ve done is bent u in a pretzel because you seem pretty pressed about what I’ve said, is it true or not true what I am saying, how are you going to justify someone calling someone a n**g*r as push back for being banned from a server, as for kros plz stop copying cicada with the whole moral compass thing, you like any other dueler have no morals as well so I don’t wanna hear it that’s why we have a history with the things we have done and committed and obviously been punished for, yes I clearly deceived a man from a mistake he did and he even openly admitted to saying that he did not care. If you really want to talk about embarrassment this whole thread is an embarrassment already and your statements show it as well
https://imgur.com/a/dazvXZE
Ur telling me this is justified

Originally Posted by tabby

I think when you have to clarify you do not harbor any hatred towards black people, then you seriously need to do some honest reflecting on how you "emotionally" react to these things. Why in god's name does banning you from a toribash server push you to blatant racism? Using the hard r (twice) towards someone you know is black? It's someone you're not even friends with, what the fuck did you think he was going to do with that? Answer rationally


You mean you're not 16 now? You are a fully grown adult resorting to racism over toribash?

This discord defense is ludicrous. How hard is it to live behind the philosophy of "don't say shit that will get you in trouble"? If your discord account can be definitively proven to be you, and the DM is literally over something that happened in toribash, I stand to see no reason why it can't be enforced. Do we seriously have grown adults in this thread trying to exploit a loophole to use racial slurs? Are you guys itching at the neck that badly to use these words?



This is a very large departure from the situation at hand that I'm feeling second hand embarrassment. You called him the hard r over something that happened in toribash. If you guys get on fucking dota and you call him the hard r then then 1. you need a larger vocabulary of slurs btw and 2. you called him the hard r over dota and that is dota's jurisdiction and not toribash's. But at the end of the day admins can do whatever the fuck they want with your account I think it literally says that somewhere

For the record I'm the person he called the hard R. We were hardly super good friends at the time. He was punished for it. I didn't give a fuck, because I'm white. He got punished for using a word against someone it didn't even apply to. Why are you all blatantly lying about him not being punished for it?



Creasing at this fucking take, like are you taking the piss? I call a black guy the hard R, I'm NOT racist? I'm just calling them a slur. I'll keep that in mind bossman

Before anyone says I'm twisting these words, I just repeated what was said



Would you care to genuinely explain that distinction? You can't just pretend there's a distinction with no explanation. Explain to me the difference, and tell me why it does not apply in this case.



What the fuck you mean instigate it you can do whatever you want when you have OP. Matter of fact pal when I get on next I'm making sure to ban you from my server. Call me a racial slur I dare you. Anyway instigated or not it does not justify his reaction to it (which you just said) but starting it doesn't mean fuck all when the other person escalates it to a degree that is asinine. You are arguing nothing with that. Victim blaming for what?



He reported it, they saw it fit to ban him, I don't see what's crazy about that. It's their game, he was out of line, he got banned. If you are being ragebaited and are on the line so hard you get yourself banned, you're a fucking MORON.



"for a word" why are you trying to undermine the weight of the hard r? And it was used twice btw. For two words. The connection to toribash is the fact that it was over toribash, and both discord accounts are verifiably those users. Maybe it's outside their game, but it's over their game in the most LITERAL sense



If we assume that to be true, which you can't even prove, so what? Legitimately what does it change? He was still blatantly racist?



Responding harshly is not the same as responding with genuine malice and prejudice. Do not conflate the two. The usage of that word is a targeted attack. Don't act like it's not. He literally is blameless bro



Actions like that always have consequences? And you're genuinely trying to say that consequence is racism?

Are you having a fucking laugh?



Then report him you muppet lmao. If it's bannable he'll get banned



You're actively justifying the usage of slurs by saying oh people call other people slurs all the time don't get mad by it, oh you instigated it so it was okay what reaction did you expect? Sobbing

Ludicrous. I will concede that a permanent ban is nuts, but I don't know the specifics surrounding why it was extended to that. But the ban itself having been placed I see no moderation issues with source: I was the best TA of all time I'm more qualified than all of you

Originally Posted by sunflower

The only bending I’ve done is bent u in a pretzel because you seem pretty pressed about what I’ve said, is it true or not true what I am saying, how are you going to justify someone calling someone a n**g*r as push back for being banned from a server

Originally Posted by Fire

Kros was in the wrong. There is no excuse for what he called him.

However, staff are also wrong to ban someone over a discord private DM. Countless harassments have happened over discord DMs before, never have they been handled in such a way.

How I see it is, staff are bending the rules trying to find any reason to ban Kros. He is just being targeted for the only fact that they do not like him. He hasn’t been banned for either harassment nor scams it’s been ages.

I would also like to add that having his ban moved from a 1 month ban, to a full ZT, BOS just after he made a ban appeal is just absurd. Staff responsible are just irrational and emotionally driven, having their ego getting the best of them. This is just a dick-measuring contest at this point.

Originally Posted by tabby

This is a fair take actually. It is true that the ban being extended shortly after is perplexing and is definitely not how these things are usually handled. Usually if your shit is getting extended you did something worse after getting banned lmfao

I would like to see clarification on the specifics of what happened at some point because I’m totally clueless. I just had to post because there were people justifying these actions and also blaming the “victim” which is just nonsense. There is thinking the ban is unjustified and thinking the actions are justified, they ARE mutually exclusive