Toribash
Originally Posted by skizz View Post
lenshu is literally the best mod in the game...
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...and all subsequent versions of lenshu that were ever made i.e. lenshu arena are all drastic improvements on the mod and 100x more competitive...

...FURTHERMORE, lenshu allows for more creativity which is why BOOST plays completely different to iTemp and Felnin plays completely different to both and YET, all playstyles are still competitively viable
whereas in abd everyones cosplaying cicada and ancient and using movememory all day and the only player that even plays remotely different is ponzo and thats because all the guy does is hunt for decaps all day and doesnt care about losing the match overall in bets

you legitimately cant watch an abd match and tell the difference between how some guy named AlphaReject2 plays and how Hater plays its hilarious.

i think that about sums up the current state of abd very well
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anyone who tells me otherwise is nothing but a pathetic movememory using loser...

I don't use movememory, but sometimes I use popular, simple openers that I can remember.
I just manualy click everything.
That's when I feel like I'm playing.
Personally, I don't see the fun in pressing only one button for the first two turns.
I like to be unpredictable and always change something, even if only slightly.
Everyone has their own style so I don't judge.

...but yeah, I'm starting to like lenshu more and more because the fight isn't so dependent on the openers but on what happens after them.
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Originally Posted by skizz View Post
lenshu is literally the best mod in the game
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and all subsequent versions of lenshu that were ever made i.e. lenshu arena are all drastic improvements on the mod and 100x more competitive

and then u have that one mod in ranked where its just abd.....in a box.....?
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FURTHERMORE, lenshu allows for more creativity which is why BOOST plays completely different to iTemp and Felnin plays completely different to both and YET, all playstyles are still competitively viable.

whereas in abd everyones cosplaying cicada and ancient and using movememory all day and the only player that even plays remotely different is ponzo and thats because all the guy does is hunt for decaps all day and doesnt care about losing the match overall in bets

you legitimately cant watch an abd match and tell the difference between how some guy named AlphaReject2 plays and how Hater plays its hilarious.

i think that about sums up the current state of abd very well
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anyone who tells me otherwise is nothing but a pathetic movememory using loser who is BLEEEEEP irl
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u may be wondering why i bleeped myself in my last sentence, its because a lot of playground insults hit home for a lot of the chopped toribash players out there

always looking out for the little guy

never used movememory and i still manually click each joint

if i overclick a joint i lose the game

that is just my ninja way

abd is very opener dependent for sure, but there are still trends over time, like right now people are in love with one handed openers where your other hand goes for a leg grab or decap, or sometimes nothing
back not so long ago it was all snapkick lifts, which are actually pretty strong against the current openers, so idk how that occured

in the early history of this planet you would be called out for going for inside grab claps instead of open hand claps lol

as for playstyles that is truly a lie idk, most of the alt duelers play very similar but play against a bunch of 10th dan + players and youll get all types of weird gameplay, i think this playstyle comment is just true for any mod, though if the game ends by turn 2 youre definitely right about other mods allowing you to express a style

there is this one guy who does some type of insane jumping side knee, and another guy who somehow always grabs the side of your hand in a weird way

i just hate a mod which can produce a situation where someone is just too far ahead and can easily run away or something, abd is really truly unfair a lot of the time but thats honestly why i love it; at any moment you can dm a wrist and win instantly - no wonder every decent bet server in history has been abd

lenshu, TK, all these mods are really great and fun but I never enjoyed playing them competetively, they rock in public rooms or with friends but there is just something so insanely demoralising about getting touched on your shin and losing the game for approaching instead of camping or running away - big disclaimer I am TRASH at this game

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the worst part honestly is that its almost impossible to overcome the inertia of the current mods, like you say there are really fun lenshu variations which never seem to actually replace 3ng, there have been attempts for aikido, abd, and every other one and a lot of these really do work imo, but people just never want to change what theyve played for so long

like what happened to that mod where youre in a dome thing, that was awesome
Last edited by Fear; Sep 5, 2025 at 02:29 PM.
Quick Aikido, but with very low reaction time and a tiny dojo. I don't play it much, but it's just my type of mod!
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Originally Posted by Fire View Post
Just another Holy Yap from AlphaaReject.

Best mod is ABD, no questions asked.

Fire said you're bad at ABD

Taekkyon. Moop kicked my ass so hard and actually used me as an example of what not to do. The mod is very fun once you become mid at it.
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Originally Posted by Fear View Post
never used movememory and i still manually click each joint

if i overclick a joint i lose the game

Ever since I swapped to Z/X I never missclicked again. Z for contract/extend, X for hold/relax.
Last edited by victortb; Sep 5, 2025 at 11:35 PM. Reason: <24 hour edit/bump
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Originally Posted by victortb View Post
Taekkyon. Moop kicked my ass so hard and actually used me as an example of what not to do. The mod is very fun once you become mid at it.
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Ever since I swapped to Z/X I never missclicked again. Z for contract/extend, X for hold/relax.

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Yeah, I only don't like erthtkv2 because of the mod's name. Make it "tkv2," and the mod will instantly become more popular. This is a valid reason as the name of the mod is still an important feature that no one seems to have yet discussed.