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I joined because I was utter shit. and slowly felt like I was getting better. I felt like if I was able to make it into TA, I wasn't half bad at Aikido.

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New Tier Requiremt.

7. The Advanced Tiers (T6 and so on) may be completed in your preferred order by choosing which style set (judo, wrestling, etc) you want to complete for that tier.

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Originally Posted by Aquita View Post
That's just how I talk/write, I'm not attacking anybody. Roux would whip it right back if he was actually offended. Yes we all get along here but not by giving hugs. Don't be so soft ponzo.

As for the app, Roux will agree (hopefully) that me and him designed the new application together to be a direct but demanding form that gives us exactly what we need to know, leaving no room for irrelevancy.

This has only been in place for maybe 2 months and what I see is improvement in the system:
1. it has discouraged many of the weaker players from applying who wouldn't be accepted anyway.

2. It extracts only essential information from the applicant.
I guarantee if you return to free form apps your going to get paragraphs of nonsense that nobody wants to read. Even if you request that they be aikido specific.

3. With one, maybe two exceptions, the applicants who have put the effort into these formed apps have all turned out to be exceptional players and members.
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Look at this

MrDohnutz Application

You know in the first minute of reading this application that you want to accept this guy. Everything is organized and direct. The replays are key and we can't review apps with out them.

Every single applicant who is accepted should jump out like this guy. It makes the process so much easier and efficient. Of course there's always room for tweaking.
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Finally, I just edited the app thread that should take care of one problem where people have been forgetting to post there replays.

Giving the coins of my rear pocket:

We already used the free form application and it used to be too much of subjective. People used to be accepted depending on the mood of the people who used to vote/decide on that.

Answering some points:
1. Weaker players has never been accepted anyway. Free form application or not. We used to deny them because they joined the org and never posted or participated in the org in any form. They just die as most of the newbies. In few weeks we had more than 70 members and the org was completely dead. (That's the explained situation of the org of when I became leader)
And for Ponzo: Actually we grew up until here as an elite organization, from a complete liberal system with nothing else than just having fun in aikido to some standardized and recognized movements and styles, still liberal and having fun, and that's why we're an org of aikido. That's why we exist. Also people don't need to join the org to learn what we teach: threads are open, techniques are not secret. They should be encouraged to become good players so they come in and help us to evolve.
2 and 3. So true

Originally Posted by Ponzo
Who are you to judge what is needed and what isn't we're not giving hugs, but we aren't going to say hey don't tell us about yourself. You want to know the person you are accepting.

I hate to say this but he is actually leader of TA for a reason. We indeed want to know the person we're accepting but free form applications never did to help in this point. Usually when the guy comes we already know him or not, and if we don't we go play with them and try to know them. That's how the application process should work.

Everybody joins Team Aikido with the purpose of getting better. But you don't need to be a useless shit in toribash to get in. Getting some padronized forms in TA brought inovation, better members and visibility in the community. Going back to free form will make us go downstairs instead of upstairs.
Last edited by iver; Sep 12, 2016 at 02:19 PM.
You see I respect your opinion Iver, but I will say it doesn't change the way I see things. Also I never said he wasn't a leader for a reason. Also please please realize that free form isn't bad and the ways before when people voted based on mood wouldn't be how it happened it is based off of council votes and if you are in council and make a vote off your personal feelings than you shouldn't be on. Also I'll get more into it, but i'm on my phone so bear with me.
Also my main point was the replays. You shouldn't require them. Also this isn't even team aikido anymore. It's Team whatever you guys merged with, but kept TA most likely because it more recognizable.
Just compromise and require the "describe your playstlye" and "why you want to join" sections to be longer than 2 or 3 sentences.
I don't give a flyin' fladoodle
Please bear with me, I don't post here all that often nor give my opinion all that much until here recently. So I apologize for that. I just don't feel like my opinion is needed at this point, but just wanted to say something anyways.

Originally Posted by iver View Post
1. Weaker players has never been accepted anyway. Free form application or not. We used to deny them because they joined the org and never posted or participated in the org in any form. They just die as most of the newbies. In few weeks we had more than 70 members and the org was completely dead. (That's the explained situation of the org of when I became leader)
And for Ponzo: Actually we grew up until here as an elite organization, from a complete liberal system with nothing else than just having fun in aikido to some standardized and recognized movements and styles, still liberal and having fun, and that's why we're an org of aikido. That's why we exist. Also people don't need to join the org to learn what we teach: threads are open, techniques are not secret. They should be encouraged to become good players so they come in and help us to evolve.

Yes, I mentioned this before as well. People joining for the reason of having a goal to be part of this organization is better than just saying, "well, people gotta start somewhere, we can teach him." and such. I don't wan't people just fucking off from this place once they've joined. I am glad you see it that way too.

Originally Posted by iver View Post
I hate to say this but he is actually leader of TA for a reason. We indeed want to know the person we're accepting but free form applications never did to help in this point. Usually when the guy comes we already know him or not, and if we don't we go play with them and try to know them. That's how the application process should work.

Everybody joins Team Aikido with the purpose of getting better. But you don't need to be a useless shit in toribash to get in. Getting some padronized forms in TA brought inovation, better members and visibility in the community. Going back to free form will make us go downstairs instead of upstairs.

First off, I like Aquita being a leader. He is a great person. Just not seeing eye to eye with him here and there, it happens. But he is the leader for a reason (like you stated). We aren't dead yet, and if I must say. We are more alive now than before.
Now, wouldn't you think a freeform system of applying shows commitment in someone wanting to join instead of filling out some damn skeletal notes?

Originally Posted by Ponzo View Post
Also please please realize that free form isn't bad and the ways before when people voted based on mood wouldn't be how it happened it is based off of council votes and if you are in council and make a vote off your personal feelings than you shouldn't be on.

I agree, Freeform is best form.

i also agree, Personal feelings are a key point. Even if you know them, and they are good. Commitment is a key point as well. Everyone needs to be tested either with in game testing or with their replays. No personal feelings should be part of the voting process. I am glad that council is in charge of that now.
Originally Posted by Ponzo View Post
Also my main point was the replays. You shouldn't require them. Also this isn't even team aikido anymore. It's Team whatever you guys merged with, but kept TA most likely because it more recognizable.

Yeah, Bushido i believe was the name. I don't think replays should be a requirement. But if it must be, can't ingame testing be the next best thing?

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This has been going on a little long, would anyone object to me moving the posts to a separate thread with a proper title and less memes.
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