Kyure was an example of how bad staff can be and there will be people backing them up, to be fair he was reported plenty of times to be kicked, not just the scam, from memory he has what it seems unreasonably banned, ruined betting servers, of course scammed, just did things without much evidence.
most of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt, cause player to staff, we most likely have clashing point of views, I talk from experience with staff, and I haven't had the best experience in the first place. I've been fucked over a few times like many others.
For example, I can't even bring up the whole tbashboii incident without being told "it's old news, should've brought it up when it happened" well the funny thing is, I brought it up plenty of times for over a week, nothing was done.
There seems to always be a devide with staff and player, when it's brought up staff doesn't seem to like hearing about it, neither do I but if it's being brought up there's something wrong. It's probably just the personality of people who end up being staff, yet lately I haven't seen many complaints against the more recent staff, it's been against older staff, and the most recent was of course the trial flaming on a server which was handled, and that was 3 weeks ago.
Also @duck, how much of player involvement is there in the development of TBN or Tb generally? I haven't really seen much, most decisions are held with higher ups. Most of the time players are kept in the dark about stuff until it's basically being released. Most I've seen are server suggestions and whatnot.
most of what I say should be taken with a grain of salt, cause player to staff, we most likely have clashing point of views, I talk from experience with staff, and I haven't had the best experience in the first place. I've been fucked over a few times like many others.
For example, I can't even bring up the whole tbashboii incident without being told "it's old news, should've brought it up when it happened" well the funny thing is, I brought it up plenty of times for over a week, nothing was done.
There seems to always be a devide with staff and player, when it's brought up staff doesn't seem to like hearing about it, neither do I but if it's being brought up there's something wrong. It's probably just the personality of people who end up being staff, yet lately I haven't seen many complaints against the more recent staff, it's been against older staff, and the most recent was of course the trial flaming on a server which was handled, and that was 3 weeks ago.
Also @duck, how much of player involvement is there in the development of TBN or Tb generally? I haven't really seen much, most decisions are held with higher ups. Most of the time players are kept in the dark about stuff until it's basically being released. Most I've seen are server suggestions and whatnot.
Last edited by Lucy; Jun 2, 2018 at 04:30 PM.
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TBN is in the hands of Hampa. I don't see why the community should be involved in his personal project at all, we aren't exactly involved that much either. Despite that, TBN is taking things from player suggestions, namely 2v2/3v1 fights.
TB's development is hugely just UI at this point, and people can always make suggestions for the game and they are always considered.
I like talking about the divide between staff and players. But the only thing that ever gets talked about is that there is a divide and that staff are bad. There will always be a divide, because you can't expect someone who is your overseer to be on the exact same level as you. But, the divide shouldn't be something negative towards any side. So the question is, what is the divide? Why is there a divide? Why do you think staff are bad?
TB's development is hugely just UI at this point, and people can always make suggestions for the game and they are always considered.
I like talking about the divide between staff and players. But the only thing that ever gets talked about is that there is a divide and that staff are bad. There will always be a divide, because you can't expect someone who is your overseer to be on the exact same level as you. But, the divide shouldn't be something negative towards any side. So the question is, what is the divide? Why is there a divide? Why do you think staff are bad?
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The community/game staff have practically nothing to do with what ends up in the game, when we do it's after a lot of pushing over a long period.
The same applies to knowing what's going on with development, the majority of the time we're in the dark just like users until a new version lands. The rare time we do find out something is happening is because it's mentioned in passing, or we spot something new appear.
Wasn't always the case, turn back the clock 5+ years and it was a very different story.
The same applies to knowing what's going on with development, the majority of the time we're in the dark just like users until a new version lands. The rare time we do find out something is happening is because it's mentioned in passing, or we spot something new appear.
Wasn't always the case, turn back the clock 5+ years and it was a very different story.
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Originally Posted by duck
Mcfarbo: If you have any sort of evidence that supports your "hrm staff are power fuelled fuckwads" viewpoint you can present it to literally any of the higher ups, me included. Or, if it's about us, you go higher (suo/skul/sir). And higher if you feel like those 3 are the worst, straight to hampa. Peddling this stance of "I can show you that staff are bad but I'd get banned" is a) unfounded and b) literally useless aside from broadening this gap between the playerbase and staff members that you lot like to talk about.
I never stated I can show you how staff are bad, but that I could list some (in my opinion) biased staff members.
And if you can read the issue I had with my ban in that exact post to see what I believe to be total bias for natejas (staff)
Originally Posted by duck
So the question is, what is the divide? Why is there a divide? Why do you think staff are bad?
The divide, in my opinion, is due to egos of both parties involved. Someone like me would be intimidated by a staff member, and some staff think they are better than others.
And I personally don't think ALL staff are bad, but I think there can be over policing, and just simply don't handle instances right sometimes and refuse to admit they are wrong.
Last edited by McFarbo; Jun 3, 2018 at 03:08 PM.
